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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:41 pm

There was a Cope India 2007 that we were in? WHy didn't we try out the F-22 lol!!! If it's so great!
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  backtothegrave on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:50 pm

frankyspeaker wrote:sadom666 wrote:

"Russian plasma stealth works
!!!!!!!!! they tested it on a Su-27"


I know. They tested it on a SU-27IB(SU-34) but it's not
certain if it works perfectly at higher speeds.
Getting it right at high speeds is difficult.
That's why i think they could use a mix of the two technologies.
RAS/RAM combined with Plasma stealth.
Because Plasma stealth has more features than reducing RCS alone.
And using them combined means a less compromised structure
because you do not have to build the aircraft as a
pure RAS/RAM stealth fighter this way. Very Happy
Maybe 70% RAS/RAM and 30% Plasma stealth. Question Question
And with a stronger structure you can reach more speed and altitude. cheers
Let us wait and see what the final results will be.

i read a few days ago a rumor about the utilization (i'll provide the quote as soon as i find out, which is not easy if you keep chronology on auto-delete.... Neutral) of plasma stealth on russian bombers.
i tell the story as was told by a news agency.
a few days (possibly no more than a month) a group of russian bombers (not precised the model or the exact number) entered the skies above alaska. being equipped with plasma stealth generators they weren't discovered until, on the way back, they turned the generators off. the american defenses were completely pissed off, becaused the bombers seemed to appear from the void right in the middle of alaska's airspace.
That's the story as it was told. is it true, or it's just rumors? Question
it's perfectly believable, though a bit strange, IMHO...
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  frankyspeaker on Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:16 pm

Backtothegrave said:

"i read a few days ago a rumor about the utilization (i'll provide the
quote as soon as i find out, which is not easy if you keep chronology
on auto-delete.... Neutral) of plasma stealth on russian bombers.
i tell the story as was told by a news agency.
a
few days (possibly no more than a month) a group of russian bombers
(not precised the model or the exact number) entered the skies above
alaska. being equipped with plasma stealth generators they weren't
discovered until, on the way back, they turned the generators off. the
american defenses were completely pissed off, becaused the bombers
seemed to appear from the void right in the middle of alaska's airspace.
That's the story as it was told. is it true, or it's just rumors? Question
it's perfectly believable, though a bit strange, IMHO..."


I don't know but i do know that a TU-160 entered U.S airspace some time ago and was not seen. Let us not forget that the TU-160 already has a smaller RCS than the B-1B. That's without using Plasma stealth.
BTW more TU-160's are being build.Very Happy
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:13 am

Uh oh. Good thing I don't live in Alaska. And is it that Plasma Stealth is so powerful? Or do our radars just suck!
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  ComradeLynx on Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:17 am

[quote="su37rulez"][quote="77RUS"]
su37rulez wrote:
ComradeLynx wrote:
Номер твоей машины? Suspect
Intresting, now i see the cyrillic letters
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  su37rulez on Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:50 pm

SDBolts wrote:Uh oh. Good thing I don't live in Alaska. And is it that Plasma Stealth is so powerful? Or do our radars just suck!
Both, hehe ;D
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:53 pm

I've looked for that event a lil but I can't find it! Has anyone found it yet?!?
It would be so hilarious to see people's reactions xD
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  su37rulez on Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:56 pm

SDBolts wrote:I've looked for that event a lil but I can't find it! Has anyone found it yet?!?
It would be so hilarious to see people's reactions xD
What are you talking about?
You want info on P-S?
I think it's secret
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:00 pm

backtothegrave wrote:

i read a few days ago a rumor about the utilization (i'll provide the quote as soon as i find out, which is not easy if you keep chronology on auto-delete.... Neutral) of plasma stealth on russian bombers.
i tell the story as was told by a news agency.
a few days (possibly no more than a month) a group of russian bombers (not precised the model or the exact number) entered the skies above alaska. being equipped with plasma stealth generators they weren't discovered until, on the way back, they turned the generators off. the american defenses were completely pissed off, becaused the bombers seemed to appear from the void right in the middle of alaska's airspace.
That's the story as it was told. is it true, or it's just rumors? Question
it's perfectly believable, though a bit strange, IMHO...
That's what I was talking about!
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  leb4ever on Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:58 pm

lol the us could be bombed and they wouldnt know what hit them lol!
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:07 am

LOL! LEB, don't talk like that about your nation lol! And I believe backtothegrave that he heard that somewhere BUT I AM VERY CURIOUS TO FIND OUT WHERE!!!
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  su37rulez on Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:28 am

leb4ever wrote:lol the us could be bombed and they wouldnt know what hit them lol!
Yeah, haha.
It's like your night-hawk and Bagdad at first time..
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  su37rulez on Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:29 am

[quote="su37rulez"]
leb4ever wrote:lol the us could be bombed and they wouldnt know what hit them lol!
Yeah, haha.
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:53 am

backtothegrave wrote:
i read a few days ago a rumor about the utilization (i'll provide the quote as soon as i find out, which is not easy if you keep chronology on auto-delete.... Neutral) of plasma stealth on russian bombers.
i tell the story as was told by a news agency.
a few days (possibly no more than a month) a group of russian bombers (not precised the model or the exact number) entered the skies above alaska. being equipped with plasma stealth generators they weren't discovered until, on the way back, they turned the generators off. the american defenses were completely pissed off, becaused the bombers seemed to appear from the void right in the middle of alaska's airspace.
That's the story as it was told. is it true, or it's just rumors? Question
it's perfectly believable, though a bit strange, IMHO...
WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS LOL?!?!? I have to make fun of the military for this colossal failure!
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  frankyspeaker on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:40 am

SDBolts wrote:I've looked for that event a lil but I can't find it! Has anyone found it yet?!?
It would be so hilarious to see people's reactions xD


http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2006/04/24/206145/russians-claim-bomber-flights-over-us-territory-went.html

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Russian_commander:_Tu-160s_penetrate_US_airspace_undetected
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:03 pm

LOL so it IS true!!!! WOW ROFL!!! Maybe all the radars fell asleep xD
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  OptimusGonzo on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:07 pm

probably just stealthed em. It would make perfect sense to me. or else find some intel doc showing a day we weren't going to run any air patrols or radar sweeps, but that would just seem so obvious, no one would write a story about that. Clearly though, Russia knew what it was doing and the author of those docs from ignorant western media, stand baffled.

Or they could have just used magical Scalar waves to change the time space continuium to make the radar magically not detect the planes, but of course I like to suggest Scalar tech like a 5 year old does magic. Its because it can do ANYTHING, despite what certain crazy English authors may say or write.
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  SDBolts on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:10 pm

Maybe the Russians just used plasma stealth and we got our asses handed to us.

Hey, who wants to move with me to Canada?!?!
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  OptimusGonzo on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:13 pm

SDBolts wrote:Maybe the Russians just used plasma stealth and we got our asses handed to us.

Hey, who wants to move with me to Canada?!?!

I'll make a thread about it
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  backtothegrave on Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:38 am

SDBolts wrote:LOL! LEB, don't talk like that about your nation lol! And I believe backtothegrave that he heard that somewhere BUT I AM VERY CURIOUS TO FIND OUT WHERE!!!

me too. well, i know where i found it, it was a random page i stumbled upon it. it's in italian and it quotes an official news (from reuters? i'm not sure)
intersting how the pages on wiki and the other are both similar and different from the one i found. maybe they come out from different reports of the fact.
though i've still to find the prime source for the news, that would be really interesting. up to now i've found lots of rumors, but they're not clear nor provide quotes.
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  T80s on Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:22 am

1 thing is sure when the PAK FA comes F15=dead...
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Re: Su-30 vs F-15

Post  77RUS on Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:58 am

F-15 already became dead after Su-27 creation
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