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Post  the next commander of pkk on Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:30 pm

Kurdistan is a country which erased from map after ww1 and it divieded among 4 countries (iran,iraq,turkey,syria),kurds are sons and daughters of great empire of mid which ruled middle-east in 7000 B.C,kurds never stopped fighting for there land but we coulnt win becouse we have alot enemies (29 arabic nations and turkie and iran) and we have no freinds like my ancestors saied:(No freinds but the moutains).in 1975 a kurdish leader Abdullah ocelan made an oraganization in order to stop turkish crimes againts kurds in noth kurdistan.and this oraganization was pkk,at first pkk wanted to solve problems in peace but turkish goverment started to kill pkk members thats is why pkk hold weapons in thier hand and fought againts turkish army for last 30 years! turkish people say that kurdistan dont exist while turkey land is belong to kurdistan and one day we will take back what belong to us! and send them back to mongolia where they belong! iam proud to be a kurdish becouse despite of alot of enemies (that want oil of my land) kurds didnt lost thier selves they never gave up! in order to remove kurds from face of earth sadam hussain an iraqi president orderd to burry kurds alive and destroy villages of kurdistan!in that procees 182000 kurds most of them children and women killed or burried alive and thouthends of villages destroyed! and in 16/3/1988 iraqi army bombed kurdish town halabja with chemica weapons killing 5000 kurds(%75 children and women)in seconds!! any way pkk is fighting for our land so that blood of children of halabja wont get wasted! chidren who died in thier mothers arm just becouse they were kurds!!
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Can u tell me anyone that hasn't problems with Turkey...

Post  sadom666 on Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:56 am

the next commander of pkk wrote:Kurdistan is a country which erased from map after ww1 and it divieded among 4 countries (iran,iraq,turkey,syria),kurds are sons and daughters of great empire of mid which ruled middle-east in 7000 B.C,kurds never stopped fighting for there land but we coulnt win becouse we have alot enemies (29 arabic nations and turkie and iran) and we have no freinds like my ancestors saied:(No freinds but the moutains).in 1975 a kurdish leader Abdullah ocelan made an oraganization in order to stop turkish crimes againts kurds in noth kurdistan.and this oraganization was pkk,at first pkk wanted to solve problems in peace but turkish goverment started to kill pkk members thats is why pkk hold weapons in thier hand and fought againts turkish army for last 30 years! turkish people say that kurdistan dont exist while turkey land is belong to kurdistan and one day we will take back what belong to us! and send them back to mongolia where they belong! iam proud to be a kurdish becouse despite of alot of enemies (that want oil of my land) kurds didnt lost thier selves they never gave up! in order to remove kurds from face of earth sadam hussain an iraqi president orderd to burry kurds alive and destroy villages of kurdistan!in that procees 182000 kurds most of them children and women killed or burried alive and thouthends of villages destroyed! and in 16/3/1988 iraqi army bombed kurdish town halabja with chemica weapons killing 5000 kurds(%75 children and women)in seconds!! any way pkk is fighting for our land so that blood of children of halabja wont get wasted! chidren who died in thier mothers arm just becouse they were kurds!!


They have tens of genocides that they don't admit they even hapened (Pontian, Armenian, Kurdish...etc) I'm telling u man these bastards will get their asses kicked really soon (ohh let me rephrase that {get their asses nuked:cherry: } that will do cheers
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Hmm they might get nuked?

Post  EVERESt on Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:20 am

Well i know that Turkish army has its ''ELITE'' troops there and cannot manage some Insurgents! that are fighting for freedom!
I hope Kurdistan gets independent country...and kick turkish asses!
these turks always piss me off!
Lets Nuke them Twisted Evil
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Vietnam war

Post  Uberwarz on Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:19 am

Lets talk about Guerilla warfare that was used in Vietnam.....
We might had not loose the war if we used force meassures but thats not the point we lost many soldiers in Vietnam hope theyr rest in peace but i until today dont agree why we attacked Vietnam that was stupid a country that was thousands mile from our homes.....

The year is 1961, the U.S. has signed a treaty with Saigon to help
South Vietnam against the Communist tyrants of the North. Will they
succeed in preventing South East Asia from falling under the clutches
of Communist rule or will the Communist threat prove all too real?



Here are the rules:

Each Capital city is its own continent. The U.S. 7th fleet in the Gulf
of Tonkin may attack the North Vietnamese coastline, indicated by the
arrows, but the coastline cannot attack back. The stars represent the
start of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The two countries at the start of the
trail can attack the four countries in South Vietnam indicated by the
arrows at the end of each branch of the trail. However, the countries
in South Vietnam can not attack back. There is a demarcation line
between North and South Vietnam. You can not attack over this line.
Will the North Vietnamese honor this?



"No event in American history is more misunderstood than the Vietnam
War. It was misreported then, and it is misremembered now." --Richard
Nixon



"You can kill ten of my men for every one I kill of yours, but even at those odds, you will lose and I will win." --Ho Chi Minh



"It became necessary to destroy the town in order to save it." --Unidentified U.S. army Major







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Re: Kurdistan the land of kurds the hidden truth!

Post  EVERESt on Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:39 pm

VIETKONG PWNED YOU! Exclamation
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Vietnam War

Post  frankyspeaker on Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:58 pm

U.S air force losses in Vietnam:

3.750 fixed winged aircraft were lost in Vietnam.
4865 helicopters were downed by Communist ground fire.
18 B52 bombers were lost to enemy action with 13 more lost
in collisions and accidents.

Heavy losses Exclamation Exclamation

Vietnam is a communist country today wich proves that the U.S lost
that war no matter what so many Americans think.
And people in Vietnam are proud and happy today.Laughing
The U.S did not achieve their goals in Vietnam.

It's a shame that many people had to die because of a wrong U.S policy.Sad

3,500,000
acres of Vietnam were sprayed with 19 million gallons of defoliants(chemicals)ExclamationExclamation
Effects from this will last 100 years! Evil or Very Mad

And what about that war criminal Henry Kissinger who is responsible
for killing over 600.000 Cambodians and 350.000 Laotians
with his dirty tactics during the Vietnam war.
And U.S policy is also responsible for helping Pol Pot to power and
we all know what he did Exclamation Exclamation
Remember the Killing Fields Question Question

Henry Kissinger is also responsible for the support to
Indonesian President Suharto with weapons to annexate
East-Timor wich killed over 200.000 citizens! And there is more Exclamation

But why do we not see Henry Kissinger before the International War Crimes Court in the Hague Question Question

This low life even won the NOBEL Peace Price! Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Kurdistan the land of kurds the hidden truth!

Post  ComradeLynx on Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:25 pm

frankyspeaker wrote:U.S air force losses in Vietnam:

3.750 fixed winged aircraft were lost in Vietnam.
4865 helicopters were downed by Communist ground fire.
18 B52 bombers were lost to enemy action with 13 more lost
in collisions and accidents.

Heavy losses Exclamation Exclamation

Vietnam is a communist country today wich proves that the U.S lost
that war no matter what so many Americans think.
And people in Vietnam are proud and happy today.Laughing
The U.S did not achieve their goals in Vietnam.

It's a shame that many people had to die because of a wrong U.S policy.Sad

3,500,000
acres of Vietnam were sprayed with 19 million gallons of defoliants(chemicals)ExclamationExclamation
Effects from this will last 100 years! Evil or Very Mad

And what about that war criminal Henry Kissinger who is responsible
for killing over 600.000 Cambodians and 350.000 Laotians
with his dirty tactics during the Vietnam war.
And U.S policy is also responsible for helping Pol Pot to power and
we all know what he did Exclamation Exclamation
Remember the Killing Fields Question Question

Henry Kissinger is also responsible for the support to
Indonesian President Suharto with weapons to annexate
East-Timor wich killed over 200.000 citizens! And there is more Exclamation

But why do we not see Henry Kissinger before the International War Crimes Court in the Hague Question Question

This low life even won the NOBEL Peace Price! Evil or Very Mad
Great post, comrade! Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
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Re: Kurdistan the land of kurds the hidden truth!

Post  Uberwarz on Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:49 am

Man lets talk about Chechnya! i think that the stupid Yeltsin killed thousand soldiers jsut for money exchange (oil)
Many soldier were wasted because of stupidity and many generals dont gived a f**ck about theyr soldiers!
But 2ond Chechen Campain that was something else great that you wasted all terrorists hope you waste the rest of them!




I hope all dead Soldiers R.I.P! Crying or Very sad
And that we (USA/RUSSIA) kick terrorist asses!
We will never fall! Evil or Very Mad Never!
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1st Chechen/перв&amp

Post  EVERESt on Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:09 pm

Yes man R.I.P to the FALLEN HEROES!


The First Chechen War was fought between Russia and Chechnya from 1994 to 1996 and resulted in Chechnya's de facto independence from Russia.
After the initial campaign of 19941995, culminating in the devastating Battle of Grozny, Russian federal forces attempted to control the mountainous area of Chechnya but were set back by Chechen guerrilla warfare and raids on the flatlands (including mass hostage takings beyond Chechnya) in spite of Russia's overwhelming manpower, weaponry, and air support. The resulting widespread demoralization of federal forces, and the almost universal opposition of the Russian public to the brutal conflict, led Boris Yeltsin's government to declare a ceasefire in 1996 and sign a peace treaty a year later.
TIME magazine commented:[3]
<blockquote>
The pictures of bomb-gutted buildings and bloody-faced civilians could have come from Sarajevo. Footage of burned corpses protruding from tank hatches might have been taken along the Highway of Death
leading out of Kuwait. But there was something unnervingly different
about the war in Chechnya, as a government turned its military might
upon its own people and attempted, at terrible cost to its own
soldiers, to level their capital city. For all the destruction and
death, there was no victory to be had. David was defying Goliath, a
Goliath that had held the world in fear for a half-century. It bred a
creepy sense of things coming unhinged, of supposed verities turned
upside down, of heroes and villains switching roles, of future dangers
that looked all the scarier because it was hard to tell which scenario
to fear the most.
</blockquote>
By one conservative estimate there were 7,500 Russian military, 4,000 Chechen combatant, and more than 35,000 civilian deaths.[2] Other estimates put the number of casualties between 80,000 to 100,000 killed. More than 500,000 persons were displaced by the conflict,[4]
as cities and villages across the republic were left in ruins, but the
conflict between the Russian Federation and the Chechen separatists
remained unresolved. In 1999 it resumed in the form of the Second Chechen War.



These war was dirty war! these fat ass Yeltsin sended many soldier to die for nothing!
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Re: Kurdistan the land of kurds the hidden truth!

Post  frankyspeaker on Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:20 pm

the next commander of pkk wrote:Kurdistan is a country which erased from map after ww1 and it divieded among 4 countries (iran,iraq,turkey,syria),kurds are sons and daughters of great empire of mid which ruled middle-east in 7000 B.C,kurds never stopped fighting for there land but we coulnt win becouse we have alot enemies (29 arabic nations and turkie and iran) and we have no freinds like my ancestors saied:(No freinds but the moutains).in 1975 a kurdish leader Abdullah ocelan made an oraganization in order to stop turkish crimes againts kurds in noth kurdistan.and this oraganization was pkk,at first pkk wanted to solve problems in peace but turkish goverment started to kill pkk members thats is why pkk hold weapons in thier hand and fought againts turkish army for last 30 years! turkish people say that kurdistan dont exist while turkey land is belong to kurdistan and one day we will take back what belong to us! and send them back to mongolia where they belong! iam proud to be a kurdish becouse despite of alot of enemies (that want oil of my land) kurds didnt lost thier selves they never gave up! in order to remove kurds from face of earth sadam hussain an iraqi president orderd to burry kurds alive and destroy villages of kurdistan!in that procees 182000 kurds most of them children and women killed or burried alive and thouthends of villages destroyed! and in 16/3/1988 iraqi army bombed kurdish town halabja with chemica weapons killing 5000 kurds(%75 children and women)in seconds!! any way pkk is fighting for our land so that blood of children of halabja wont get wasted! chidren who died in thier mothers arm just becouse they were kurds!!

Reading your post makes me very sad Sad and angry Evil or Very Mad at the same time Exclamation
Denying people their basic rights is so terrible.
Everybody has the right to live their live in freedom.
Because the PKK started to defend them selfs they are seen by
the world as the bad side. It's so dishonest Exclamation
Why isn't the world doing something about this injusticeQuestion
I saw the video's and pictures of the Kurdish villages after the chemical bombings by the Iraqi regime. It's sickening Exclamation
The U.S delivered these chemicals to Saddam Hussein to
use against Iran Evil or Very Mad Exclamation
When Saddam invaded Kuwait the U.S and U.N helped Kuwait
because of the OIL Exclamation
But when innocent people get massacred by chemical bombings
the U.S and UN do nothing Exclamation This is so sick and this should have been
a legitimate reason to invade Iraq Exclamation This shows the double standard
used by the U.N and especially the U.S Exclamation
The U.S always accuses other countries for not respecting human rights and they always talk about freedom and democracy but helping when it's
really needed they do not Exclamation Disgusting Exclamation
My heart I love you goes out to you my son and i hope things will get
better for you and all Kurdish people Exclamation
Keep your head up Exclamation Wink


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Post  the next commander of pkk on Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:26 am

thank you Smile
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Re: Kurdistan the land of kurds the hidden truth!

Post  77RUS on Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:44 am

I don't know kurds, but...

i hate turks, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend!
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Post  Uberwarz on Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:26 am

yep man i hate turkey 2 they think they are some special species i think they nazis.... they are fanatics man when i was in army we had a stupid guy from turkey that sayed us how they slaughtered the neigberhood countrys....(geonocided them) i dont know why they so stupid!
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Post  the next commander of pkk on Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:25 am

Uberwarz wrote:yep man i hate turkey 2 they think they are some special species i think they nazis.... they are fanatics man when i was in army we had a stupid guy from turkey that sayed us how they slaughtered the neigberhood countrys....(geonocided them) i dont know why they so stupid!

you were in army great! but what turkish guy doing in usa army ??!! he must be spy or some thing .Evil or Very Mad
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Post  77RUS on Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:15 pm

the next commander of pkk wrote:
Uberwarz wrote:yep man i hate turkey 2 they think they are some special species i think they nazis.... they are fanatics man when i was in army we had a stupid guy from turkey that sayed us how they slaughtered the neigberhood countrys....(geonocided them) i dont know why they so stupid!

you were in army great! but what turkish guy doing in usa army ??!! he must be spy or some thing .Evil or Very Mad

i suppose that turk was an immigrant and had a green card or even citizenship
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Re: Kurdistan the land of kurds the hidden truth!

Post  Rock on Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:30 am

pkk, I do not like Hussein at all! My parents come from Iraq, and they came to US because of Hussein! I am terribly sorry about how many Kurdiyeen were killed :(
I am happy that there is a Kurd in govt, President Talabani! I hope he and PM Nouri Al-Malaki do many great thigns for Iraq and reestablish it as a world economy like it was before!! I wish the best for you, and I hope Kurds and other Iraqis can be friends!


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Post  Uberwarz on Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:31 pm

History Repeats.... its fu*ed up.... so many soldiers are diying in afghanistan in iraq in somalia and everywhere are our troops i dont support our goverment they sux and are big liers.

Vietnam was a dignity war for the usa.
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