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Post  sadom666 on Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:07 pm



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THE ability of Australia's new F-35 Joint Strike Fighters to evade detection and enemy attack has been substantially downgraded by the US Defence Department.
And a Liberal MP and former senior defence analyst, Dennis Jensen, warns that the fighters - at $15 billion the most expensive defence purchase in Australia's history - will be unable to maintain air combat dominance.
"Do we really want our pilots to be caught in a knife fight in a telephone booth with an aircraft that, aerodynamically, is incapable of mixing it with the threat?" he said in a submission to a parliamentary inquiry.
A crucial aspect of the fighter's "stealth capability" - radio frequency signatures - has been downgraded from "very low observable" to "low observable", according to the US Defence Department website.
Peter Goon, a former RAAF flight test engineer, said that would mean the difference between it appearing as a "marble and a beach ball" on enemy radar. The problem with the fighter, Dr Jensen says, is that it can be relatively easily detected from the rear.
A Federal Government source conceded yesterday that the stealth capability definitions had been changed, but maintained that the "design requirements" for the fighter to "avoid detection" had not.
Signs that the stealth capability had been lowered first emerged last year, when key performance indicators on the US Defence Department Joint Strike Fighter
website changed. The manufacturer of the aircraft, Lockheed Martin, insisted repeatedly to the Herald that the reported shift was an error. Australia's Defence Department also maintained there had been no change.
But those assurances have proven false. When the Herald contacted the US Defence Department Joint Strike Fighter program office in Washington, a spokeswoman said the latest table on its website was correct. "There is no reason to pull it from there," she said.
A Lockheed Martin spokesman said yesterday: "We will have to defer to our clients, the US Government, if that is their decision."
The downgrading in the stealth capability is only one issue that concerns Dr Jensen, who has a doctorate in applied physics and used to work at the Defence Science and Technology Organisation.
He said the Joint Strike Fighter could not match the Russian-built Sukhoi strike jets operated by air forces around the region in important respects

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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:48 pm

"fucking Turkish aircrafts everyday!"
IS that F-16?
What do you use?
What do Turks use?
And who uses those planes on your signature (Turks or You)?
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We both do

Post  sadom666 on Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:02 am

su37rulez wrote:"fucking Turkish aircrafts everyday!"
IS that F-16?
What do you use?
What do Turks use?
And who uses those planes on your signature (Turks or You)?

we both do use f-16s but we have better ones block 50 & 52+
!!!Cool Cool

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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  Uberwarz on Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:30 am

Man Turkey has F-16
Greeks have F-16
BUT!
Greeks have some modernized F-16 like F-16 Block 50/52+
BUT!
Turks have F-18/F-15(old) and other planes... i have heard that they might buy F-22!! silent

And some Sukhoi at 2015....
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Dude are u retarded???

Post  sadom666 on Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:16 am

Uberwarz wrote:Man Turkey has F-16
Greeks have F-16
BUT!
Greeks have some modernized F-16 like F-16 Block 50/52+
BUT!
Turks have F-18/F-15(old) and other planes... i have heard that they might buy F-22!! silent

And some Sukhoi at 2015....

Turks will never buy F-22 they allready bought F-35
They DO NOT have and NEVER HAD F-18 or F-15.
And we don't have some block 52+ we have 60 of them and thats only block 52+ Cool BTW thats a big number in the Aegean + we have JHMCS Twisted Evil
all of our F-16 fighters are over the level of block 30 Cool
Turks are upgrading their now. + We own Turkish fucks in the air everyday the phrase I wrote in my pic is REALITY Cool

Note: We have the most modern F-16s in the whole Europe Cool
+ the pic shows 2 F-16Cs block 50 Basketball

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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  ComradeLynx on Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:44 am

And S-300 will fuck all Turkey's planes Smile

And the Craptor is not and will not be available for commercial service, they say its too advanced (LOOOL)
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Yep

Post  sadom666 on Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:02 pm

ComradeLynx wrote:And S-300 will fuck all Turkey's planes Smile

And the Craptor is not and will not be available for commercial service, they say its too advanced (LOOOL)

Yeah we have S-300 too but the Patriots are more Sad
our pilots are considered to be the best in Europe Basketball (offcourse others are very good too)
we are the first to have installed JHMCS system Basketball
Turkish pilots suck tongue tongue


Here's the proof farao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IeLFUTZiBg

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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:25 pm

Believe it or not F-16 sucks Laughing
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Ohh come !!!

Post  sadom666 on Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:59 pm

su37rulez wrote:Believe it or not F-16 sucks Laughing

Ohh come on man why are u being such a dick ?
Most of my countries fighters are F-16s what's your fucking problem ? Evil or Very Mad
If u don't like F-16 I don't give a fuck:evil: thats your problem.
I LIKE F-16, AND I DON'T LIKE PPL LIKE U Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!!

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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  ComradeLynx on Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:04 pm

Sadom, Su37Rulez, you both please shut the fuck up.Mad Mad

If some one doesent like F16, its his decision, and if some one does, its his.

I dont want Red on Red combat on these forums, im serious. Mad
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:07 pm

sadom666 wrote:
su37rulez wrote:Believe it or not F-16 sucks Laughing

Ohh come on man why are u being such a dick ?
Most of my countries fighters are F-16s what's your fucking problem ? Evil or Very Mad
If u don't like F-16 I don't give a fuck:evil: thats your problem.
I LIKE F-16, AND I DON'T LIKE PPL LIKE U Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!!
I said belive it or not!Twisted Evil
Your countries?
As long as I know you're Greek...
Don't be mad.
Fine, fine...
Compared to Russia, they suck Laughing Laughing ?
Is it one-engined?
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:08 pm

Oh, Hey!
Your F-16 looks kinda like my Su-35BM on my avatar, doesn't it?
From the front..
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:@

Post  sadom666 on Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:46 pm

ComradeLynx wrote:Sadom, Su37Rulez, you both please shut the fuck up.Mad Mad

If some one doesent like F16, its his decision, and if some one does, its his.

I dont want Red on Red combat on these forums, im serious. Mad

Don't tell me to shut the fuck up he fucking started Mad Mad

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ahhhhhhhhhh

Post  sadom666 on Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:50 pm

su37rulez wrote:
sadom666 wrote:
su37rulez wrote:Believe it or not F-16 sucks Laughing

Ohh come on man why are u being such a dick ?
Most of my countries fighters are F-16s what's your fucking problem ? Evil or Very Mad
If u don't like F-16 I don't give a fuck:evil: thats your problem.
I LIKE F-16, AND I DON'T LIKE PPL LIKE U Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!!
I said belive it or not!Twisted Evil
Your countries?
As long as I know you're Greek...
Don't be mad.
Fine, fine...
Compared to Russia, they suck Laughing Laughing ?
Is it one-engined?

NO I meant my countrie's, happy now ?Mad
And yes it is single engined.


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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:53 pm

Did you modify them for Greek?
Or is it completely American-made?
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LOL

Post  sadom666 on Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:27 am

ComradeLynx wrote:"He started it" <-- LOL, stop being childish

Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad tongue Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  SDBolts on Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:11 am

On topic:
F-35 got owned! Now PAKFA WILL RULE THE SKIES Very Happy
Just Russians, please don't attack USA and I will keep all respect for you Very Happy
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:53 pm

SDBolts wrote:
...Just Russians, please don't attack USA and I will keep all respect for you Very Happy
Ha-ha!
If you tell Bush not to be so stupid
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  OptimusGonzo on Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:20 pm

sadom666 wrote:
Ohh come on man why are u being such a dick ?
Most of my countries fighters are F-16s what's your fucking problem ? Evil or Very Mad
If u don't like F-16 I don't give a fuck Evil or Very Mad thats your problem.
I LIKE F-16, AND I DON'T LIKE PPL LIKE U Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!!

uh, he's right dude. the F16 was never intended to be the US's foremost line of Air to Air defense, that role was granted to the F15, and we specifically only intended to give that to Israel at first because it was our best. Now granted the F16 Doesn't SUCK, and it especially doesn't SUCK when in the hands of an experienced pilot, but if the F15 would have trouble owning up to its rep against the Su37, then most certainly the F16 wouldn't stand a chance.
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  SDBolts on Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:26 pm

No plane stands a chance against the Terminator!
Pity it was just an experimental model Sad
But Su-35BM, Sukhoi T-50, and MiG-35 will rule the skies for ages to come!
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:00 pm

SDBolts wrote:No plane stands a chance against the Terminator!
Pity it was just an experimental model Sad
But Su-35BM, Sukhoi T-50, and MiG-35 will rule the skies for ages to come!
Su-35BM is in production..
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  SDBolts on Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:06 pm

It better be! I wanna see 100 active by 2010!!!!
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:11 pm

SDBolts wrote:It better be! I wanna see 100 active by 2010!!!!
Haha, so do I.Smile
And I like the way you care of our contry's military.Very Happy
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  SDBolts on Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:44 pm

No problem. I owe it to Russia for beating some of the world's most powerful militaries almost single-handedly!
Also, Russia is an ally to Iraq, my parents' home country, and that is good! Russia makes amazing military technology, and their lead in the world in physics (Germany is 2nd) puts them way ahead in the development of 21st century technologies!
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Re: F-35 NOT SO STEALTHY (Same story, like F-22)

Post  su37rulez on Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:49 pm

SDBolts wrote:No problem. I owe it to Russia for beating some of the world's most powerful militaries almost single-handedly!
Also, Russia is an ally to Iraq, my parents' home country, and that is good! Russia makes amazing military technology, and their lead in the world in physics (Germany is 2nd) puts them way ahead in the development of 21st century technologies!
physics! Dude that's right!!!! cheers
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